#818 - 06/13/05 11:43 AM
What should we know before buying remediated home?
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mrmarksmom
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We are looking at purchasing a home that has had complete remediation down to the studs with some stud replacement. We have not recieved all the documentation from the seller and association yet, but are trying to educate ourselves.
Would you buy a remediated home? What things would you want to know beforehand? Will there be problems getting insurance?
What other questions should i be asking? 
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#819 - 06/13/05 06:53 PM
Re: What should we know before buying remediated home?
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provip
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Questions:
Why was the house remediated and to what extent.
Who did the work and were they qualified.
Was there a proper permit, was it inspected and by who.
I would consider hiring an inspector for a full report.
I think that if all is up and up, insurance should be available without a problem but make some enquires to satisfiy yourself.
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#820 - 06/13/05 07:24 PM
Re: What should we know before buying remediated home?
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RemodelingGuy
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My input would be:
Did you get a copy of the FINAL CLEARANCE!~?
If the home is free of mold, it's free of mold ( at the time of the clearance)
Make sure that ALL water intrusions are gone etc. but make sure that you have a copy of the final clearance test!
- Jimmy
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#821 - 06/15/05 08:15 PM
Re: What should we know before buying remediated home?
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mrmarksmom
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Thank you for your advice. You provide a valuable service for those seeking answers.
Here is what I have found:
The following two reports were after teardown and before reconstruction could take place:
1st post remediation report states high ascospores 4,367 FS/m3 and basidiospores 2,267 outside...very woodsy enviroment. negligible of same spores inside home.
Amerospores 167 outside with higher readings up to 289 in a few rooms in the home. Basidospores outside 2267, inside 11 to 44 depending again on area. They noted low to moderate concentrations of viable Aspergillus and Penicillium species, none of which were detected outdoors.
Cladosporium 22 outside, up to 67 in two rooms.
Although one of the fungal structure samples contained Stachy spores, no Stachy was identified in the viable samples.
After an additional round of general cleaning of the space and decontamination of stained wood surfaces, a reinspection took place. (2 months after 1st report)
It states total airborne fungal structure concentrations in the indoor samples much lower than outdoor, with no amplifications of Aspergillus/Penicillium spores and no Stachy spores detected.
Lumber framing wipe samples: only two surfaces had any apparent spores, neither of which contained Asp/Pen, or Stachy.
At this time, the consultants felt the remedial activities were adequate, effective and complete. They advised that construction of the interior of the home could continue as normal.
What is confusing me is that the although the later report states the house is "cleaner" the actual numbers FS/m3 for each fungal spore type is higher than the first report??!! For example, basidospores outside were 4556, while anywhere from 167 to 500. Which is much more than 1st report......unless there is a typo on the table headings or mixed up the tables. Granted, they are still drastically lower than the outside sample...that doesn't make sense to me???
Any thoughts?
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#822 - 06/15/05 08:35 PM
Re: What should we know before buying remediated home?
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mrmarksmom
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I forgot to add...
Everything was replaced in this home down to the studs including stud replacement as needed, roof, Hvac, wiring, lighting, basement waterproofed, soil tested/moved around basement walls...absolutely everything except for what they deemed to be uncontaminated studs, or those that could be "cleaned". All noted area of water infiltration were remediated. In fact, they improved the whole layout of the home.
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#823 - 06/15/05 10:06 PM
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provip
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Loc: Victoria, BC, Canada
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First, you must remember that there are fungus (mold) spores everywhere. What we need to do in our homes is keep them inactive or dormant and the best way is.....you guessed it, keep the envelope dry. Moisture is the key element to activate spores.
The major concern is indoors which includes all elements of the building envelope (windows, doors, walls, roof, foundation) and the most harmful fungus is Stachybotrys Chartarum which produces mycotoxins with some Penicillium and Aspergillus types close behind.
Many fungus's are not harmful to humans and some love wood. So the ones we need to worry about are those that are harmful to human health and those that love the wood in our houses.
Sounds to me like the job was thorough. Now, if the house (envelope) is kept dry which means the detail work was properly done, you should be OK.
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Bart Blainey, B.E.R.
Consultant/Journeyman Carpenter
Building Envelope Specialist
Master Renovator
provip@prodeck.org
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Barton Blainey (provip) specifically assumes no legal liability or responsibility for the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any information or process disclosed. The above further expressly advises that any use of or reliance upon the information and or opinion disclosed is at your risk .
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Bart Blainey, B.E.R. Consultant/Journeyman Carpenter Building Envelope Specialist Master Renovator provip@prodeck.org http://www.prodeck.orgBarton Blainey (provip) specifically assumes no legal liability or responsibility for the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any information or process disclosed. The above further expressly advises that any use of or reliance upon the information and or opinion disclosed is at your risk .
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#824 - 06/12/06 09:40 AM
Re: What should we know before buying remediated home?
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RemodelingGuy
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Loc: Houston, Texas
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What are your thoughts on Fogging Bart?
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